Daniel 11:
Warring Kings of North and South
5 “Also the king of the South shall become strong, as well asone of his princes; and he shall gain power over him and have dominion. His dominion shall be a great dominion. 6 And at the end of some years they shall join forces, for the daughter of the king of the South shall go to the king of the North to make an agreement; but she shall not retain the power of her authority,[a] and neither he nor his authority[b] shall stand; but she shall be given up, with those who brought her, and with him who begot her, and with him who strengthened her in those times. 7 But from a branch of her roots one shall arise in his place, who shall come with an army, enter the fortress of the king of the North, and deal with them and prevail. 8 And he shall also carry their gods captive to Egypt, with their princes[c]and their precious articles of silver and gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the North.
There have been many commentaries on the subject of "The daughter of the King of The South."
A favorite one is that she is "Bernice"
v 6 After some years, they (King Ptolemy II Philadelphus and King Antiochus II Theos of Syria) will become allies. The daughter of the king of the South (Berenice) will go to the king of the North (Antiochus Theos) to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last. In those days she will be handed over, together with her royal escort and her father (other translations use or include "child") and the one who supported her.
"Around 250 B.C., King Ptolemy II Philadelphus of Egypt (285-246 B.C.) and King Antiochus II Theos (261-246 B.C.) of Syria attempted to guarantee peace between their countries by having King Antiochus marry King Ptolemy's daughter, Berenice. Antiochus already had a wife, called Laodice. It was part of the deal that he divorce her. So the divorce was arranged, the new marriage was celebrated, and in due course a baby boy arrived who could someday be the next king. Unfortunately, Antiochus soon found that he didn't like Berenice very well. He kept making comparisons between her and his first wife. And when Berenice's father, the king of Egypt, died, Antiochus divorced her and took Laodice back again. But Laodice had become bitter. She was afraid, too, of what her husband might do next. So using her royal powers in a manner all too common in those days, she had Antiochus, Berenice, and Berenice's attendants and Bernice's little son all murdered.'
The problem with the whole "Antiochus II" account as the final fulfillment of this prophesy is that as soon as these events of Daniel 11 are concluded, we can see that Daniel's prophesy is mirrored by John's prophesy in Revelation and the "END" of the world with the "Resurrection" takes place immediately .
Daniel 12
Prophecy of the End Time
1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, ("At that time" refers to what just happened in Ch 11!)The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
Some to everlasting life, ( This is Resurrection!)
Some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3 Those who are wise shall shine
Like the brightness of the firmament,
And those who turn many to righteousness
Like the stars forever and ever.
4 “But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.” (until this end!)
5 Then I, Daniel, looked; and there stood two others, one on this riverbank and the other on that riverbank. 6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long shall the fulfillment of these wonders be?”
7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.
8 Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, “My lord, what shall be the end of these things?”
9 And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.
13 “But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days.”
The King of the South is Egypt. The question is will the "Daughter" be literal, symbolical, or both? The reason we should care is that if we are indeed looking this prophesy in the 'eye' as to it's fulfillment, we should be able to identify all the players on this end-time battlefield!
Never before since biblical times with Israel as a nation-state have we seen the possibilities of these events come to pass as they are doing with "The Arab Spring" developments which have left Egypt without a "King" and other "Kings" (Syria, Libya, Iran, Saudi etc..) in "cold war like" maneuvering to gain position over all the Mid-East.
The 11the chapter of Daniel is full of this imagery of armies fighting theses battles, we can see are being done so presently through political and financial manipulation and backroom deals where treason, and intrigue are commonplace for the "powers that be" who would Be King.
The Antichrist figure/Power is evident beginning in Daniel 11: 21: "And in his place shall arise a vile person, to whom they will not give the honor of royalty; but he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue.
(could this be the Mediterranean Union Sarkozy is co-president of?)
22 With the force[h] of a flood they shall be swept away from before him and be broken, and also the prince of the covenant.(NATO?)23 And after the league is made with him he shall act deceitfully, for he shall come up and become strong with a small number of people. 24 He shall enter peaceably, even into the richest places of the province; and he shall do what his fathers have not done, nor his forefathers: he shall disperse among them the plunder, spoil, and riches; and he shall devise his plans against the strongholds, but only for a time.
25 “He shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the South with a great army. And the king of the South shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand, for they shall devise plans against him. 26Yes, those who eat of the portion of his delicacies shall destroy him; his army shall be swept away, and many shall fall down slain. 27 Both these kings’ hearts shall be bent on evil, and they shall speak lies at the same table; but it shall not prosper, for the end will still be at the appointed time. 28While returning to his land with great riches, his heart shall bemoved against the holy covenant; so he shall do damage and return to his own land.
So previously to this "Vile person" we see "the daughter of the King of The South.
Symbolically this can be The Mediterranean Union...
In this photo released by the Palestinian Authority, French President Nicolas Sarkozy, center, shakes hands with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, left, and Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert prior to a meeting at the Elysee Palace in Paris, Sunday July 13, 2008. Sarkozy met the two leaders ahead of a Union for the Mediterranean summit which will bring together leaders of 43 nations in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, some of whom have never before sat around a single table.(AP Photo/Thaer Ghanaim, Palestinian Authority)
PARIS — French President Nicolas Sarkozy urged the disparate and conflicted countries around the Mediterranean Sea on Sunday to make peace as European rivals did in the 20th century, as he launched an unprecedented Union for the Mediterranean.
Yet the summit did not mask all the divisions that crisscross the region: Syria's President Bashar Assad left the enormous table before Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert gave his speech to the more than 40 leaders seated around it, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
It was the first time the two men had sat at the same table.
"The European and the Mediterranean dreams are inseparable," Sarkozy told leaders from more than 40 nations in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa. "We will succeed together; we will fail together."
The union Sarkozy championed as a pillar of his presidency brought together around one table for the first time dignitaries such rival nations as Israel and Syria, Algeria and Morocco, Turkey and Greece.
Coping with age-old enmities involving their peoples and others along the Mediterranean shores will be a central challenge to the new union encompassing some 800 million people.
"We will build peace in the Mediterranean together, like yesterday we built peace in Europe," Sarkozy said. He insisted the new body would not be "north against south, not Europe against the rest ... but united."
Sarkozy went to special efforts to bring Syria into the international fold for the summit: Assad met Lebanese President Michel Suleiman and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, separately, both for the first time. And he met Sarkozy, after years of chill between their countries.
Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak, co-presiding the summit with Sarkozy, said: "We are linked by a common destiny."
He said the union has better chances of success than a previous cooperation process launched in Barcelona in 1995 because the new body focuses on practical projects parallel to efforts toward Mideast peace.
Mubarak called on the new union to tackle reducing the wealth "gap" between north and south, and cited other southern Mediterranean "challenges" as education, food safety, health and social welfare.
"The success of the Union will depend on ... reforms and durable development," Mubarak said.
A draft declaration obtained by The Associated Press shows that summit participants will announce "objectives of achieving peace, stability and security" in the region. The six firm measures it names include a region-wide solar energy project, a cross-Mediterranean student exchange program and a plan to clean up the polluted sea.
The draft declaration says the Union for the Mediterranean is to be operational by the end of this year, and unlike any previous body, it will be jointly run by all its members. It will have a dual presidency, held jointly for rotating terms by one country within the European Union and one country on the Mediterranean shore.
The draft also speaks of democratic principles, human rights and fundamental freedoms _ values Western critics have accused such union members as Syria of violating.
Algeria's President Abdelaziz Bouteflika said he hoped the union would make it easier for North Africans to receive visas for Europe.
"Our common Sea should bring us closer together, not separate us," the president said in an interview with official Algerian news agency APS.
He also questioned whether the union would have enough money to get things done and whether "the EU really wants to contribute to bringing southern Mediterranean countries up to speed."
Germany's Merkel said, though, that the project would have about US$20.6 billion that has not yet been spent by the Barcelona Process _ the forerunner of the Mediterranean union.
Merkel, who pushed to expand Sarkozy's idea to include all 27 EU nations, called Sunday's meeting "a very good start" and said it could help the Middle East conflict.
The Union for the Mediterranean is Sarkozy's brainchild and was timed to coincide with the French presidency of the European Union. Paris holds the rotating post until the end of this year.
But Sarkozy's ambitious plan overlapped with EU projects already in progress, and it was melded into EU efforts and expanded to include 27 members of the European Union, not just those on the Mediterranean coast.
Sunday's meeting was seen as more significant for the bodies gathered than for any immediate progress it is expected to achieve.
Israel's Olmert said: "We are closer than ever to a possible (peace) agreement today" with the Palestinians _ and said he hoped for direct contacts "soon" with enemy Syria.
Earlier Sunday, France's foreign minister urged the countries to unite to deal with global warming, growing migration and shrinking water and energy resources.
"To do nothing would be a risk. We are fragile. Our world is fragile. Latent tensions and growing disparities are too dangerous for this unstable epoch. We have everything to gain by reinforcing our ties," Bernard Kouchner said.
On Sunday morning, Sarkozy met with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who had shown reticence about coming to the summit. The leadership of the mostly Muslim country fears that the Mediterranean grouping is designed to keep Turkey out of the full EU membership that it seeks.
The Mediterranean gathering will be capped Monday with more than dozen leaders attending France's national Bastille Day military parade as special guests.
The new union is to include at least 43 nations, nearly all of which sent a president or prime minister to the summit. Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi objected to the whole idea and refused to come.
President Mubarak of Egypt was to co-share the Presidency of the Union with Sarkozy this year. Until a new President of Egypt is elected and will accept to co-share, President Sarkozy is "De-Facto President of the Mediterranean Union meant for Islamic nations.
So is the Union itself the "Daughter" and if so will an actual Woman be it's spokesperson?
on the World Stage....
Clinton U.S. Secretary of State
Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel has vowed to implement a permanent bail-out facility amid speculation over a break up of the 16-nation eurozone.
A joint statement with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.. ...said the two would propose replacing the existing fund that expires in 2013.
Meanwhile the head of Germany's central bank said the existing fund could be increased if needed.
And the fund's head has dismissed the risk of a eurozone break-up.
Klaus Regling of the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) said it was "inconceivable that the euro fails".
There has been speculation that some countries may be forced to give up the euro in light of the Irish debt crisis.
Fund upsize
In their joint statement, the French and German leaders said that they were working "under high pressure on a joint proposal for a crisis mechanism that is to replace the current one beyond 2013".
The EFSF was set up over the summer as a general rescue fund for eurozone governments, in a failed attempt to prevent the Greek debt crisis spreading to other countries.
The two leaders also said they wanted a bail-out of the Irish Republic by the EU and IMF to be finalised as soon as possible.
A joint statement with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.. ...said the two would propose replacing the existing fund that expires in 2013.
Meanwhile the head of Germany's central bank said the existing fund could be increased if needed.
And the fund's head has dismissed the risk of a eurozone break-up.
Klaus Regling of the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF) said it was "inconceivable that the euro fails".
There has been speculation that some countries may be forced to give up the euro in light of the Irish debt crisis.
Fund upsize
In their joint statement, the French and German leaders said that they were working "under high pressure on a joint proposal for a crisis mechanism that is to replace the current one beyond 2013".
The EFSF was set up over the summer as a general rescue fund for eurozone governments, in a failed attempt to prevent the Greek debt crisis spreading to other countries.
The two leaders also said they wanted a bail-out of the Irish Republic by the EU and IMF to be finalised as soon as possible.
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The absolute truth about European bailouts...
Germany's Chancellor Angela Merkel has vowed to implement a permanent bail-out facility amid speculation over a break up of the 16-nation eurozone.
A joint statement with French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the two would propose replacing the existing fund that expires in 2013.
Meanwhile the head of Germany's central bank said the existing fund could be increased if needed.
And the fund's head has dismissed the risk of a eurozone break-up.
A joint statement with French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the two would propose replacing the existing fund that expires in 2013.
Meanwhile the head of Germany's central bank said the existing fund could be increased if needed.
And the fund's head has dismissed the risk of a eurozone break-up.
Christine Lagarde facing fresh controversy
Christine Lagarde faces fresh controversy after French judges said she appeared to be "personally" involved in a decision to approve a payout to a friend of Nicolas Sarkozy when she was finance minister.
5:33PM BST 18 Aug 2011
Miss Lagarde, 55, the head of the IMF, faces investigation for complicity in embezzlement of public funds for approving a 403-million-euro (£350 million) settlement to Bernard Tapie in 2008.
The nine-page report details the reasons that the seven magistrates from France's Court of Justice of the Republic, CJR, with special powers to judge ministers, decided on August 4 that Miss Lagarde should be investigated. The investigation officially opened on Tuesday.
The CJR asked three appeal court magistrates to investigate whether Miss Lagarde is guilty of "complicity in forgery" and or "complicity in misuse of public funds".
The three most powerful "Daughters of The King of the South" (Sarkozy) all on Board for "A One World Village"
Clinton quote: "It takes a village to raise a (daughter) child." Reminds me of "Macbeth"........(which was a fictionalized rendition of King Saul and Witch of Endor)
Clinton quote: "It takes a village to raise a (daughter) child." Reminds me of "Macbeth"........(which was a fictionalized rendition of King Saul and Witch of Endor)
I have always felt that laughter in the face of reality is probably the finest sound there is and will last until the day when the game is called on account of darkness. In this world, a good time to laugh is any time you can.
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